Have we witnessed the repackaging of Richard Armitage? Perhaps. And if so, I support the campaign.
Before: Richard Armitage, often seen by “outsiders” ( read -NOT US ) as the brooding, shy, sometimes awkward guy, with a slightly mean face, who can best play baddies and brooding, smoldering characters. Not getting roles. Not being bombarded with potential projects.
Or Now: Richard Armitage, the handsome, laughing, easy going leading man- in-waiting. Talking openly about new work, what he wants, want he fears, what may be getting in his way.
There was an inkling of the new message when he turned up in the fall insouciant ( and a little tousled) for the Clickonline interview spawning the cat/dog “controversy.” And that was before we knew the context of the discussion, and Richard Armitage’s decision to scribble “Meow” as a message specifically to his “Army.” Clickonline
And in the first promotional video for the trailer release of the The Desolation of Smaug, where he seemed not that into it, and as a reader said ” off his game.” But this could just as well have been read as, “I’m not taking this too seriously.”
Throughout the press junket for The Desolation of Smaug, fans and bloggers have been describing Richard Armitage as ” more relaxed,” ” more confident,” “cheeky,” “sassy,” “edgy,” “irreverent,” “teasing,” and laughing, laughing laughing.
I’ve been one of those fans. I partially attributed the change in behavior to his experience, now that this was the third time he was going through a high octane press tour. In part, I also attributed the change to statements he himself made that, thanks to Peter Jackson, he learned to have more fun and not take himself so seriously. ( I think he meant this in relation to his acting, but I took it to mean life in general).
I also thought that Richard Armitage had a higher level of confidence because he had some corrective work done on his nose (just a tip lift – very subtle, very easy, very quick). He himself mentioned a few times that he hated his nose, thought it was too big, even as fans continued to extol its special beauty and character. (Thus why I was so surprised when not one of those fans “seemed” to have noticed the change – impossible really, for people who spend so much time looking at and playing with photos of the face, but that’s another post – that and the backlash on against those who even dared to suggest the obvious )
The issue with the nose though, why change it if he wasn’t unattractive – but was in fact, drop dead gorgeous? Why at this stage of his life?
Some might say he changed it to please himself. I say, he changed it to please the people making casting decisions. It was a strategic business decision, a smart thing to do and one I hope pays off for him in more opportunities and more choices in roles. His features before, contributed to the impression that he had a “mean face,” “was brooding” and could best play “baddies.” The slight change in the nose gives him no bad angle ( where before his right profile was problematic) and over all a less sinister look for him. A more classically handsome look might open up more opportunities for him, put him into consideration for a wider type of roles.
So, a change in behavior and a change in appearance. A change in attitude perhaps. Remember the New York Moves Magazine article and Armitage’s comments on the American political scene, as some fans railed and complained, others back peddled for him and still others thought it was a courageous and welcoming change in him. But maybe it was a calculated decision to appear as though he were willing to speak out. And have some fun. recall it was Armitage who came up with the idea to have contest for a Thorin Cocktail- recipes for which are still surfacing. It was a way to get fans talking, and it worked.
There will be some fans and other watchers who criticize Richard Armitage for making these changes, for altering his image, literally and figuratively. There are fans who think some of the instances of his humor and joking have fallen flat or been downright offensive. But it’s a work in progress. Some fans won’t like the idea of his repackaging himself to pander to Hollywood or casting directors, but if it helps him get some of the work he wants, I’m all for it.
Everybody changes to some degree over time. We are all works in progress, or should be, surely? And as we grow older and more comfortable in our own skins, we should also feel more free to be who we really are, rather than who others want us to be.
I mentioned on Serv’s blog that I had the opportunity to have my own nose tweaked while undergoing necessary surgery to remove cysts located in my sinus cavities. Mine was pretty subtle, too, as this is definitely a nose that still has character sitting in the middle of my face. 😉 If people want to think less of me for it, that’s their problem, not mine. I, too, hated my nose growing up and when I had to chance to modify it a little with insurance coverage, I jumped at the chance.
Once I studied various photos and decided he’d had work done, I actually suggested at FB last week that the slight change in the nose might have been suggested to widen his appeal to casting directors for a greater variety of roles. And that nobody should think ill of him for it (if he went and had a Bruce Jenner “girly nose” job, THEN I would be upset). The man’s a fine actor and so versatile and if this helps him to be considered for more roles—more power to him. It’s not like lots of other talented, respected actors haven’t been tweaked along the way, too . . .
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Hold on. I wasn’t suggesting they weren’t your original thoughts, Perry, I was agreeing with you. I was simply saying I had similar thoughts that I had expressed at FB (and not on my own page, by the way, but on a post by another RA fan and blogger). Re FB, sorry if my “medical” links are bothersome, but then again, it’s my own page and it’s a battle I do fight each and every day along with many others. I want bother you with any more of my comments.
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Suit yourself, but I think you misread what I wrote.
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Perry I like your comments everyone changes and at times I thought that RA was somehow young for his actual years He was once described as shy, giggly and very sweet and loving. This was when he was 35. I’m glad that he feels that he can speak out on political issues even if we don’ agree with him we should respect his right to state them. I hope we can see more of this marvelous actor reach his full potential sooner rather than later.
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Thanks Wendy. I just want to point out that I don’t know/think that Richard Armitage has actually changed. I think he’s tweaking his image.
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Totally agree with you re Image which I like very much.
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I wonder how he feels about this version of himself. Slightly lighter, more confident, undoubtedly more appealing to potential employers and audience, but important parts remain unchanged. I hope it brings him what he wishes for.:)
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I’m still wondering what he is going to do in 2014.
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For all we know, thie “version” may be the version that was there all along. I think the enhanced confidence is real though.
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*Public* version, his image and the way he is perceived.
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“I feel like if nobody sees this movie, THEY are gonna kill me” (Jennifer Lawrence Nov.2013 at Letterman, at minute 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzWXgqtxQGk ) This incredible phrase is an appeal from a Oscar winner well-liked actress.
One has to wonder under what impossible pressure are actors from the bean counter and bigwigs in Hollywood? RA has that other film premiering in August, perhaps the bigwigs at WB put the same kind of pressure on him to rise his profile in the press and to interview with the most strange press outlets, whatever they can buy for him. My guess is he is very stressed by this.
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Must say tha he looked extremely tired after the Berlin red carpet event.
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I think he is interviewed by the same media outlets as his Hobbit co-stars and the actors from comparable movies. Business as usual. If he occasionally looks tiered that may not only be because of the stressful PR duties but also because he isn’t the youngest any more and it shows more easily and because some partying has been going on.
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I think he always had a naughty, cheeky side that becomes more visible when he doesn’t feel uncomfortable. It was very obvious in his early messages and also in some of the early interviews and we loved him for that. So no surprise at all. Though I do remember that some newer fans couldn’t believe that the guy they knew actually wrote that messages.
re the nose, not sure I see it or not. Altering something to make himself more “cast-able” makes an amount of sense and is in line with getting his teeth done as soon as he could afford it.
However, the alteration of the tip of the nose you suggest doesn’t make much sense to me. Why not straighten the bridge of the nose that still has a bump? And why not doing something against first signs of ageing? He still has slightly sagging skin under his chin and is pretty wrinkly around the eyes. Surely these days there are treatments that wouldn’t leave his face unable to move.
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I actually think that he looks OK sure cosmetic use will help and also collagen treatment . To undergo plastic surgery would change his features too much. Gorgeous George and Colin Firth are now on their early 50’s and still look pretty good,
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I actually do think he has aged visibly. He looks fine, but he looks like someone in his forties. IIRC he said the Hobbit made him age ten years and I think it did. Different from Lucas or Porter when IMO his looks were on their peak.
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Why should he look younger than his age?
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Because the actors he competes with for leading man roles are younger? And the actors in his own age range are much more established than he is? When it comes to getting roles in Hollywood I think his age is a bigger problem then the tip of his nose.
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Perry I’m on your wavelength I think that he looks great and also does not look 42.
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I can’ help whether the tip lift makes sense or not. Just look at it. If you can’t see it, I don’t know what to tell you. As I said in the post, I don’t understand how it can be missed by those who look at his pictures and work a lot. I think the small, minor correction did the trick.. It’s not about aging, IMO, or in making him look more handsome. . It’s about having a different look that is less brooding and sinister – something, unfortunately long or unusual noses often convey in literature and film.
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Well, he did. He commented on it more than once
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To be sure, he commented on actually “having the surgery done” or just the wanting surgery/being unhappy with his nose?
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What he said in older interviews was that he would not have the surgery done – who wants to be perfect? I’ll send you the link. I had it all prepared when I thought I was going to post on a different aspect of this instead of the topic I chose. I guess I knew it would boil down to a discussion of the nose mostly, but I was really aiming at a discussion of the reasons I put forth for it, some other changes in how he’s perceived and, as I said, my support of his strategy,if it is a strategy.
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The changes in his presentation of himself do not bother me. I don’t think he is bending his personality too far, probably just trying to behave in public more like he does among his friends.
But that he feels the need to mess with his nose makes me sad for him, as i’m afraid it was a profession-related decision. God what a brutal and unfair business. Though i suspect i would feel better about it if i liked the result, or believed in it as an effective step.
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I could point you to comparisons and before and after photos, or you can find them yourself. If you don’t see it, you don’t see it.
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I see. The problem I have with this evidence is that don’t recall his nose ever being as hooked as it looks in that before pic. It has always been long and straight, with a slight curve at the tip. I don’t know if it is pointier now. I truly don’t, that is why I’m asking. It has always looked different from different angles. Apparently, as I have found out by now, those things could be done without full surgery and without touching the bone, just by injecting fillers to even out the shape.
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I think the best way to see is to watch videos – episodes of Spooks and RH if you have them. Look for the right profile ( not easy to find). Look at gifs on Tumblr of Lucas and Guy.
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It wasn’t a hooked nose. Just a long nose ( still is) with tip a mm off to a side and a slight downturn. Not a hook. I don’t think they did mess with the bone.
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Yes, I think this is what he actually did. No full surgery, I don’t think the bone was touched, only filler and raised tip. imho a very good work, because it removed the flaws without changing expression at all. 😉
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I knew he looked a bit different but chalked it up to being so much thinner and odd camera angles. Immediately post-Thorin, his facial musculature was different. I doubted cosmetic work only because there are other areas (crows’ feet and smile lines in the cheeks) which usually get treated first, and there is no evidence of this. I now think perhaps he did have a slight lift, particularly if it is as non-invasive a procedure as you all are saying. Surgery affecting the bone could affect his voice, so it would be wise to avoid that in someone whose voice is such an attribute. If he did have work, it is very subtle. I’d hate to see him go the route of some other actors who are becoming unrecognizable.
He looks good, but he looks like a man who is on the other side of 40. We are so accustomed to seeing people over 40 who don’t age well that I think when we see a 40+ man who looks good, we leap to “he looks younger”. No, he doesn’t look younger than his age but he is a good looking man for any age. Frankly, I want to see more 40+ and older actors. I’m tired of the babies the media pushes as sex symbols. I can’t gush over someone who looks like they need help with their geometry homework.
As for Richard’s personality, I think it’s all a matter of packaging. The same goods are inside, but the box and wrappings are changing. I think having survived the first major publicity blitz of his career last year, he is letting his hair down a bit. He still seems unsure or uncomfortable at times, but no one is ever always on their game.
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After seeing him closer, his eye laugh lines are there – they are fairly subtle, but still there.
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I think maybe it is just a filler, no surgery at all. But the problem is, by lifting the tip of the nose, it also moved it further from the face, and gave it a more simplistic triangular shape. I think to do it right, it would have to be a surgery, and an extremely precise one, dealing in fractions of a millimeter….don’t know if it’s even possible.
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The idea here wasn’t to pick apart his decision or the result. It was, as you have commented in your later comment, to discuss the possible reasons for some of the changes.
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Yes, but we can not know his reasons, and would possibly waste our breath going off a wrong premise. Some of the results are, however, quite solid. And we are quite interested in the guy’s appearance. That is, unless we are here because he is talented, intelligent, and nice, and it’s a pure coincidence that he is also tall and exquisitely handsome 😉
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I’ve seen peoples noses hook down like that when they’re talking & if his does & someone took that pick at the right moment…it would of course look like he got a nose job….and in reality if he did for whatever reason, what business is it of anybody’s but himself?
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Not sure what you’re getting at. I think the photographic evidence is pretty clear that he’s made a change. Whether he did it or not is ” business” to people who analyze his thinking and actions, and of course, it’s just speculation as to why he did it. But he did it. It’s no different than discussing why he might take one role and not another.
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The difference in the nose is so evident I really don’t know how someone cannot see it. Tip was raised and the sides were enlarged (sorry I don’t know what English word to use here) to finally avoid the irregularity. A very good job, but it’s just my opinion. I agree with Perry about the reasons he did it, and I’d add that he probably found a non invasive way to improve something he always hated. Why not? 😉
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I completely disagree. I see no change in either his physical appearance nor in his behavior. Go back and watch the stuff from 2004, 2006. Still the same giggly adorkable Richard.
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The change in his appearance is subtle. You’re free to disagree.
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I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this 😎 I’m one of the clueless ones who haven’t noticed the nose change 😳 but I don’t do screen caps or anything like that either, where I would be focusing on one part of him enough to notice it (tho I admit I am now curious and will probably go do some comparisons…for research, mind you 😛 ) I have no problem with him making subtle changes, it’s part of the business; and it seems just a tad bit hypocritical to me when others chastise him for it, seeing as how so many women hide themselves behind make-up and died hair everyday…I also agree that the way he is presenting himself in public is slightly different, but just tweaked a bit, in comparison to the first Hobbit press tour; not his old interviews, etc. I agree that it seems like he’s giving himself more freedom to show who he is, instead of staying buttoned up behind the professional persona.
so in summary: I just all around agree with you, Perry 😀
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That’s my view. I’m not criticizing him for any of it- though others might. I think he’s trying something to new, and he must have reasons for it – which I guessed at.
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I tend to agree with Perry post. The difference between press junket 2012 and 2013 are very clear. We first noticed a change in RA behavior in front of an audience when he did the Q&A gig in Sydney, 1st May 2013. In that occasion I wonder if he had “studied” to be more spontaneous, more open in front of an audience. After this DoS press junket I’m almost sure he did. I think he used 2013 to re-think himself and his career, to understand if he really wanted to raise the stake, trying to “do it” in America. We know (or it would be better to say, we think we know) that he is not a shallow man, that he needs to be sure about the things he does (he did research even for very small roles, not the one to improvise). He wrote an entire biography for Thorin, to better understand how to act the character, to understand him, to defend him even at the very last moments. It’s rather unthinkable he could have taken the decision to try and work in Usa without deep pondering and working on himself. He had the opportunity to gain a Green Card so he decided to try. I can have many ideas about RA (of different nature) but I’m sure about one thing: he’s a clever, determined, ambitious, adventurous man. His whole story tells us so. He’s not so stupid to think he can become big in Usa behaving like he did in UK, doing TV. He knows it’s a bigger game and he knows he has to change something. He may dislike interviews, Red Carpet, photo sessions but he knows he must undertake them, that they are part of this job. A big part. My personal impression about DoS press junket is blurred. I don’t see a more self-assured, at ease man. I see a man that learned how to play the part of being funny, at ease, and flirting actor promoting a big movie. To clarify: I watch interviews and Premieres and I see RA acting like Harry Kennedy. I perceive something faked, constructed, not spontaneous. But it could be I’m still thinking to old RA during last year TH promotion. One gif in particular struck my brain and heart. It’s from the Dandalf video, he was acting silly with a big smile, then suddenly he lowered his eyes and I thought I grabbed a glimpse of the “real” RA. A man not really happy to be forced to do these kind of things in order to get work. I felt like, in that very little instant, the mask was off. But then I think about the old interviews, as saraobsessed pointed out. And I tell myself that, maybe, last year RA was only a very cautious man trying not to behave like an excited child on Christmas Day. And I’m more puzzled than ever… Forgive the long post 🙂
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Very detailed and interesting thoughts, Micra. I’m not sure about the Dandalf video you described. I’d love to see the gif, but I’ll just look at the video again and post it for discussion, if I can find the part. –
where I might disagree with you -or not know if I agree – is that I don’t know and can’t say whether Richard Armitage is more at ease, is being himself more, or is he acting it. Just don’t know. I thought I saw genuineness – but he’s a really fine actor.
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I can’t say myself for sure. As I said, I’m puzzled. I saw genuineness sometimes, not so much in other cases. But of course they are all actors, are promoting a movie so they must tell us what has been decided they must say. It is very hard to tell when they speak their minds or when they repeat a “learned lesson”. During the Hangout session, i.e., RA looked not very comfortable but it could be an impression of mine. And as you said, since they are all fine actors, it’s hard to tell when and if they are acting 😉
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I think he looked uncomfortable then also, but I it was sort of an odd event.
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Yes, a bit weird. And he was probably frightened by the host 😛 Poor Dave at least learned how to properly say Thorin Oakenshield 😉
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A tip lift? Thanks for pointing it out. And here I thought his nose fix was due to his Orcrist filming injury–and it kind of realigned that crooked bit below the bridge of his nose. I’ll have to “study” him a bit closer. Hard work that. Ha!
RA is consummately gracious in interviews. And I so appreciate when either the interviewer–or RA’s own sensibilities that day–bring RA’s lighter side to the forefront. RA’s smile and humorous bits take years off of him–though I don’t think he looks 42.5 at all, more like 38. Ha!
I do hope that RA works in some new project meetings in between his THDofS press. He probably is, but with his penchant for not talking about roles until they are confirmed by others or he is already filming it, we just have to be patient.
I would love to see RA in a light romantic comedy–no weapons needed but for baby wipes to tame diaper rash for his baby son. Ha!
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Thanks Grati. He said in a recent interview (print, maybe clickonline) that he disqualified himself from romcoms, but who knows.
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Interesting discussion! As someone who came to RA’s work in 2010 via Porter & The Strike Back series, it’s been kind of neat “backing” into his earlier work. I will say I do believe he’s made some pretty significant adjustments in how he handles the spotlight — mostly I think because he’s had to.But I also think he’s more confident because he’s done it already. The Hobbit flicks are over half a billion dollars of investment by the studios, and as a featured cast member he’s expected to play a big role in the publicity machine. I don’t presume to know what he thinks about it all, but I’d guess he knows that kind of exposure–if he uses it well(and I think he has)–benefits him professionally. Is it the next stage in RA’s evolution as an actor? I think so. The world got a lot bigger for him because of this role & he wants to take the next step. Good for him – I’m enjoying watching him do his thing 🙂 Sorry about the garbled post…I’m only halfway into my 1st coffee of the morning 🙂
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Not garbled at all. Let’s hope the really great exposure this time around helps him achieve all his goals. I think he did WB, PJ and himself credit this press junket, as with the last 2.
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Perry, I really enjoyed this post and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t like parts of his attitude change. 😉 I agree with you that the changes are a work in progress, which is a big part of why I haven’t just up and moved on.
Nose-gate has kind of blown my mind from the beginning. It’s the one part of himself the he’s repeatedly made a point of saying he’s uncomfortable with, so it didn’t seem out of place at all to me for him to have something done to it, even if fans loved it as it was. I agree with you that it was probably done with professional reasons in mind, because it does seem like that slightly sinister angle is reduced or even gone all together.
On a personal note, I appreciate that you were able to write your view here without taking pot shots at those of us who have been less than pleased with him. Thank you for that.
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Thanks JasRangoon. I see your point and the point of those who feel as you do. I do think he’s trying to find his way to changing how he’s perceived, and I don’t think he wants to do that by being snarky or insensitive, if for no other reason than it’s bad for business.What got me about nosegate was not what he did, but the among those who look at every minute detail. I wish he would have changed his nose because it was something that bothered him, as we know it was. All in all, if some people didn’t notice, then it was a success. I’ll always have Lucas, Porter, Gisborne and Thornton – not to mention Ascroft.
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I think some might be reading a bit too much into things. If he did have a nose job, which I still can’t tell, TBH, how do we know it wasn’t for medical reasons? His nose is/was slightly crooked, that can cause breathing problems, it could be a deviated septum…maybe it’s just me but I don’t get the brouhaha.
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Hello Amanda and welcome. I posed a theory and a conclusion. No brouhaha ( one of my favorite words BTW) on this end. The work done wouldn’t have affected the septum in this case.
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As usual, NorthernGal, we are on the same wave length. I don’t think he made the correction to look younger,but for the reasons I suggested – to look friendlier. And I think it worked. I, too, hope he doesn’t start messing around with his face, and somehow, I don’t think he will for some time, if ever. And yes, the product is the same, only the package is different.
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Believe me, I had definitely noticed the change in his nose! I am a details person and as you said, I spend enough time ogling pictures of this beautiful man not to have noticed. I also happen to be in love with his nose and his profile in particular. I too was surprised that no one else seemed to have noticed. I concluded that everyone was just in denial.
Although I am a great admirer of natural beauty and not a fan of the Hollywood cookie-cutter idea of beauty we see these days, I have absolutely no problem with what he had done to his nose. I am happy he only lifted the tip a bit and that they left the rest of it as is. I am glad they didn’t make it smaller or get rid of any bumps, etc. because it is still looks like that nose we all know and love. It is only slightly noticeable in profile photos when he is smiling because the tip no longer points downward as it used to before. I think he was absolutely gorgeous before, but if he feels more confident now and if refining his profile a bit will help him get more work, then I fully support him.
I believe Richard is at a crossroads right now. He probably realizes that if he doesn’t seize his chance to break into Hollywood now, it’s never going to happen for him and that can account for the changes.
I am thoroughly bewildered that with all he has to offer–his talent, his screen presence, and his incredible physical beauty–people are not begging to cast him in their projects!
Are they all blind or just stupid?
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Welcome Veronica, In answer to you question, maybe the people in Hollywood are stupid and blind, but folks who know more about the business than I do believe that Richard Armitage is still not that well know outside of the UK. He may be trying to change that now by riding on the tide of The Hobbit, by relocating to NY and who knows what else. There should be some promotion for a DVD release in March or April, which will get him back in the spotlight, and then the promotion and opening of his newest film, Into the Storm. So – fingers crossed.
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Thank you, I’ve enjoyed your blog for some time. I am crossing my fingers as well. Whatever he’s doing, I hope it works! He’s a lovely man, inside and out, and he so deserves it! 🙂
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Wow, it never occurred to me. But I just scanned through his old pictures, and his nose seems to have a whole range of looks – from pretty straight to pretty ‘hooked’, like on Micra’s ‘before’ picture above. But to me, the ‘after’ picture looks kind of…primitive (I admit that my tastes are strange).
Did it happen just several weeks ago? Because on this picture his profile looks like the original version…and much more elegant
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I guess it was sometime after the Fan Event.
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I agree, There are photos from Fan Event where we can see quite clearly the old nose.
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I’ll just say briefly here that I do not always comment on the things I have found noticeably changed about Richard, publicly. My choice is often based on not wanting to bring attention to it. But neither do I judge him on such changes. They are his to make, whether I like it or not.
But I feel compelled to say here that there is a recent choice he may have made that might have been a decision based on an injury he mentioned while filming The Hobbit – one involving Orcrist and contact with the bridge of his nose – which could have made a pronounced difference both externally and internally. Just a theory on a maybe.
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That may be what he would say if asked. He brought up the nose injury in more than one interview.I believe though that he said the injury resulted in a stitch or two and split the skin and he has a small scar that we can see. I ‘m interested though in what other changes you noticed and didn’t want to call attention to. I’ve had one of those and also chose not to mention it because it wasn’t relevant to anything I wanted to write about or discuss. In the past you’ve pointed out reasons for things that I didn’t think of before, but which were valid to me, for example, why it would be best not to identify which fan art he chose to donate for a silent auction – to spare fan’s feelings and.or anonymity. So I am interested for that reason only.
But I’m glad you brought up the issue of not calling attention to it. I don’t really get that because he, himself must have known or expected some comment based on the history and his repeated comments, and as it turned out, I heard at least two interviewers say, but in a a different context, “it looks good.”
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I hadn’t heard any mention of it other than here, in a Tumblr post or two, or from the occasional fan who brought it up privately. I had not heard that he spoke of it actually doing it to anyone, much less an interviewer. There was a Tumblr post which had comparison images from earlier this year (Popcorn Taxi) to recently. In that, I myself compared the difference between that Popcorn Taxi image and images from previous years (Robin Hood). Those are the ones where it looks like, if he had been cut across the nose bridge and it was deep enough, then a part of the skin on nose could have been affected and possibly have caused a slight drop. But that “drop” does appear to have been repaired or removed. I note here that I have not seen anything to indicate that there has been any significant size reduction.
I have always adored his nose exactly as he was born with. But if he made any changes to it, which helped him in any way and for whatever reason, I can only feel good about it in his behalf.
And personally, if I had the money, I’d do an Angelina Jolie – both to help prevent breast cancer and gain a much needed “lift” – so I would never be one to tell anyone what they should or should not do with their own body.
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I have always adored his nose exactly as he was born with. But if he made any changes to it, which helped him in any way and for whatever reason, I can only feel good about it in his behalf.
I agree people should be able to do what they want to make themselves feel better, or in some cases, feel safer. I’ve never kept it a secret that I myself had my nose done when I was 15. Almost everyone I knew did. It’s what Jewish girls did when they turned 15 or 16. For me, it changed my life since form 13 to 15 I had a terrible nose and the correction gave me huge confidence which has never left me.And I also had some work done on my eyes when I thought I needed it a few years ago. We all do these things for different reasons. Unfortunately, in our society, youth is at a premium and for some of us who have to make a living and compete for business, appearance is important.It’s just a fact of life, at least in my world. And, it does provide an immeasurable lift- psychologically.
For Richard Armitage, it would be nicest if he just decided to make the change because it would fix something that was bothering him.But whatever his reasons,I’m certainly not critical of it. He seems happy enough and I do attribute some of his perceived new confidence to this- projecting from myself, I;m sure.
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This has been an interesting discussion brought about by an interesting post. I’ve been quite bemused and amused by all the opinions set forth in the comments section as well – but maybe because as someone who lives in Southern California and who, twice a month, drives over to Beverly Hills and sets up her massage table in a doctor’s office just below one of the busiest cosmetic surgeons in town, such things are the norm for me. I usually see clients after they’ve had some sort of cosmetic surgery, primarily to lessen the look of scars whether they’re from lipo or chin tucks or face lifts.
Many people in the business, at least in Hollywood have had some work done at least once in their career – whether it’s before they hit it big or after. That’s just the way it is. Most of the work is done so well that you never really notice it and when you do, what matters is the overall result. In Richard’s case, if people can’t tell the difference with his nose, then bravo – if he had work done, then it was done well. If people did notice the difference in his nose, but can’t really pinpoint what it is, bravo as well – the fact that everyone is discussing the “did he or didn’t he” as well as “if he did, then what type of procedure (if any) was it” is sign of a successful procedure. In Hollywood, casting directors would probably look at Richard and ask, “does he have the classic hero face?”
A few things I learned about noses: a hooked nose makes anyone look much older. The tip of the nose also droops with time so it will make someone look much older as well. In cosmetic surgery, there’s this fact/theory (I’m not really sure which one) that the ideal angle between the upper lip and the nose (the nasolabial angle) should be between 90-105 degrees in women, and between 90-95 degrees in men.
Since I don’t really pay attention to technical details in surgery, that’s about the extent of my pseudo-knowledge (disclaimer: I am not a surgeon so what I mentioned above is just hearsay from a surgeon) and that alone, was quite tiring for my poor brain LOL
Bottom line for me is this: whether Richard had work done or not, whether it was for medical or cosmetic reasons or not, if it achieves the desired effect of either making his life better health-wise (if work was health-related, deviated septum for example) and/or making him more cast-able in Hollywood, then good for him.
And good for us.
For me, I like the way he looked then and I like the way he looks now. He certainly looks way better than I do on any given day 🙂
And as long as he’s happy, I’m happy.
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Thanks for that, and I know you know this was more than about just the nose. And I know you would have told me, Perry, in the end, it’ll be just be about the nose.
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It will always be more than just about the nose, but unfortunately I got carried away with the nose thing 🙂
Still, I can’t wait for 2014 and see what’s up next for him. Definitely “Into the Storm” and maybe a few more pick ups for the third Hobbit movie and so much more!
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He probably has to gear up for DVD release promotion in March/April. Don’t imagine he’ll do a ComiCon -type event (Supernova?) any place, but he promised Sydney an appearance, and then, July/August Promo for Into the Storm and possible pick-ups for DOS ( I’m betting definitely yes) All of which means that as far as we know, he’ll be working, but not necessarily acting, on and off for the next 8 months.It’s the”so much more” I’d like to hear about. Fingers Crossed.I’m naive, a Pollyanna,-maybe he’ll be tapped as a “presenter” for some awards show.
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“he doesn’t look younger than his age but he is a good looking man for any age. Frankly, I want to see more 40+ and older actors. I’m tired of the babies the media pushes as sex symbols. I can’t gush over someone who looks like they need help with their geometry homework.”
AMEN!
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Thank you Perry for your post. Sorry this is a belated response, am only now catching up post festivities. The nose is, indeed, something that has recently caught my eye. Yes, it is different. Not just the tip (ever so slightly less hooked, lacking that touch of flatness on the tip when viewed from the front), but the bridge also looks less pronounced to me. I don’t mind that he has had some work done, although I think his nose before was incredible and hope that he doesn’t do anything more drastic lest he lose his distinctiveness. I can understand why he might have done it however, there is certainly less of an inverted triangle shape when smiling and viewed from the front. I suspect the greater distance from nose tip to upper lip looks better on film. However, I do think he is not beyond other ‘work’ . He dyes his hair, we know this. Some thought (possibly not his) has obviously gone into the stubble contouring. I suspect other treatments are also involved- a bit of Botox here and there (forehead ridiculously smooth for a fair skinned 42 yr old who likes skiing…) as long as he never goes down the Gerald Butler Fake Bake route. Alas, I fear that there is a fair amount of ‘other stuff’ in his life that is swept under the carpet by his (us?) loyal crew – sometimes out of respect and sometimes due to plain old denial. In fact, I think he is probably stuck between a rock and a hard place, poor sausage. Anyway, I digress. I have no objections to his ‘tinkering’ other than that I really hope he doesn’t become just *too* magnificent to even contemplate looking at :). I have to say, the recent close up clips of him at Waterstones (kudos to whoever filmed those vids btw, you have balls zooming in so close), were *** painfully beautiful.** But then he *is* painfully beautiful.
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Couldn’t agree and welcome to my blog. He is an artist but also a product.If he wants to sell himself to a new market and feels he has to take these steps,I am all for it. On the other hand,if he wanted to stay in British TV, I would be all for that, too – now that I know how to see British TV when the Brits do!!!
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Maybe his nose job was a mix of business with pleasure. He stated often enough he hates his nose, and even if others say it wouldn’t matter and he would look gorgeous enough, this little change can make a real difference for his inner balance and confidence. If you are happy with yourself you act differently. I totally can understand why he did it. And that subtle lift opens his face, I agree – it’s a win-win situation for all sides, I guess.
The same goes with his “performance” live or in interviews. One eventually gets a routine of how things work, that the reporters/the fans won’t do any harm 🙂 and that one will survive that PR tour. He learned how to react to questions (there are no real new questions from the reporters) AND that people actually like him. That also gives confidence.
No one knows what kind of experiences he had when he was younger and before he became an actor. Experiences that maybe changed him or his views. He reminds me of a friend I have. He is the sweetest person I know, very charming, funny, intelligent, loveable, handsome (think Jared Leto) and everything. But he thinks very low of himself. Hardly NO confidence. He thinks he’s not good enough (which is an aspect I could imagine in RA, too). I can’t understand why he (my friend) is thinking this but I’m not in his mind nor skin.
With that (nose job, press tour) RA learns new things in/about him. I don’t think that’s bad bc I believe a person’s character will never change. An bad character will never become a caring/loving person. And visa versa. He already showed what he really is and I think (hope?) he remains that for a long time if not forever. He is a smart man who knows how the business rolls and also, what he wants or doesn’t want.
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I’m sorry for this late comment of mine. But I’m always late (late bloomer here). 🙂 Hi!
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Better late than you know what. I agree with most of you say. I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong with him making improvements as he sees fit. He’s a walking business and he needs to put his product in demand. If that helps – fine. Or,if he only did it to please himself, that’s even better.
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I don’t know who said that but it would be certainly awkward if he shows up with a tiny snub nose. LoL I guess, in that moment I would question him and his purposes. 🙂
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Just sayin’, after seeing a ton of profile shots made by fans at the premiers and the Pinter/Proust event, and not just the official pics that were available when this discussion started, I’m now totally convinced by the tip lift. It is very obvious that the slight downwards curve is gone, and the effect is exactly what you said, his profile looks friendlier and less brooding and sinister.
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Hi Jane. I know, I know. And yet some on-lookers say they are not able to discern any change. is greater from the right profile, which one sees much less in earlier photos.
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In my opinion ,he shouldn’t have changed his nose. He became another handsome guy.So? There are 1000 perfect looking guys out there. He is an actor. You don’t mention Al Pacino for his good looks. It’s like he lost his trait, this impact..I don’t know.
However, if he did it for personal reasons i understand.
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Looking back on this post, which is a few years old, I’d have to say there’s some evidence it helped him get more roles. Yet, any nose would have been great for his John Proctor – his best achievement after Thorin IMO.
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